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Study: Pythons won't survive outside of Florida

By Cindy Steinle
Sat, September 25 2010 at 21:20

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LMAO! OMG you wasted money on this so-called "study"?

How warm was the "cover" you provided the snakes? Months at 60 degree temps will kill them.

But, then again, what do I know? I'm simply a lowly snake owner. And, being one, I know that it's harder to kill a subtropical species of snake kept at cold temperatures than it does with too much heat.

It takes months and months of temps being too cold for the snake to starve to death. You see, when it's too cold, they won't eat, or if they do eat, they won't be able to digest their food.

IMO your "study" was nothing more than animal abuse and a huge waste of money.

Let's put dogs n cats outside in temps too cold for them to survive and see how many months it takes them to die.

Why don't you listen to the people who actually keep and breed these magnificant animals? If they could be kept at 60 degrees, then every Burmese python owner would be ecstatic....

I'm thinking of the savings on my electric bill. I keep my python room at 80 degrees year round and they all have spot heating up to 92 degrees. Silly me.
#1 Karenc on 2010-09-26 12:24 (Reply)
the study was done to see if burmese pythons had the potential to become a nationwide pest as the usfw, animal planet, and peta suggested. be glad it was done, as it shows your pet is not the threat it was being made out to be by these groups. you are aware these groups were trying to make possession of these illegal referencing made-up nonsense, yes?
#1.1 scott on 2010-09-26 21:59 (Reply)
I know all about PITA and the H$U$ and why the study was done and I still believe it was a colossal waste of time and money. It was nothing more than animal abuse in the most cruelest of forms. Leaving an animal outside in the winter to see if it will freeze to death.
#2 Karenc on 2010-09-26 22:29 (Reply)
As a biologist I understand why studies like these are done. People, especially scientist like proof. You can't argue it or dispute it, so it is great that they did this study. Yes any one who owns a burm already knew this, but there was no standardized research on the subject, so you could argue it. It wasn't a waste, and as resident of Georgia, I am very happy this study turned out the way it did, cause we were up next for all the ridiculous python laws.
#2.1 john on 2010-09-27 06:22 (Reply)
"People, especially scientist like proof."

Oh yea.... as if the thousands of snake keepers nationwide couldn't tell ya the truth...
#2.1.1 RaZEDaHeLL (Homepage) on 2010-09-27 07:19 (Reply)
Regardless of what reptile keepers know, scientific publication is THE REQUIRED METHOD to prove such knowledge.
Hearsay(ergo "what snake keepers tell ya"), does nothing to sway scientists, legislators, or laws. These entities more than "like proof," they REQUIRE PROOF.
This study is PRICELESS, as it refutes erroneous scientific research papers currently thrown about the federal government. These erroneous reports are seen as gospel, and used to back the draconian legislation being proposed.
Without proper research reports, these erroneous scientific papers are ALL legislators can use.
# scott on 2010-09-27 08:14 (Reply)
Unfortunately, your opinion carries no weight when legislators write these types of laws.
It certainly was not a waste of money if you like keeping these reptiles, and wish to continue in the future.
Your comments seem illogical, as the only people who would say this research is a waste of money would be those groups who believe having these reptiles is somehow inherently "wrong."
Ultimately, the only thing which matters is properly executed research publications which have followed the scientific method.
#2.2 scott on 2010-09-27 08:22 (Reply)

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