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Posted by Karen on November 20, 2001 at 21:56:27:

In Reply to: Re: good subject posted by Jennewt on November 20, 2001 at 18:00:03:

: : Hi,
: : Can frogs and sal's live in the same vivarium??????
: : If so which species make good combo's
: : thanks,
: : B.

: Generally not. There are examples of it working, but often things go wrong, even after things seem OK for many months. For a more detailed answer, see:
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/treefrog/messages/4398.html

: I've been collecting sad tales of mixed species disasters from these forums. Here are the ones involving newts/sals and frogs. You be the judge of whether it is worth the risk or not.

: My firebellied toad attacked my firebellied newt and it died
: Posted by Mimi on May 28, 2001 at 20:11:48:
: After putting in crickets for the toad to eat, the toad tried to eat the newt. I had to pull the newt out of its mouth twice. This morning it was dead. Any ideas?

: Help! Fire-bellied newt lost its front right leg...
: Posted by Jeffrey on July 12, 2001 at 20:13:42:
: I came home today from work and my newt is missing a front right leg. It shares a 10 gallon with a fire-bellied toad. It looks like its suffering. Any suggestions???
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/22308.html

: Is my newt dying?
: Posted by Jeff on July 30, 2001 at 12:41:53:
: Hi,
: I'm pretty new at the newt thing. I originally had 2 firebelly newts. One died of what appeared to be a white infection on his foot, which eventually fell off, then he died. While his foot was injured he didn't eat either. Now, a few months later, I've got one newt and added a little albino frog in my tank - and my newt has a foot injury/disease. He isn't eating. What is going on here?
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/22725.html

: Full grown african bullfrog with a salamander
: Posted by Joe on November 08, 2001 at 15:34:56:
: When i was 5 my father had a rather large african bullfrog, ine day wheile exploring my backyard i came across a salamander...10 minutes later the frog came across a meal
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/frog/messages/34901.html

: Golden Mantella and Painted Mantella
: Posted by Gecko/Frank on November 08, 2001 at 13:56:02:
: Golden Mantella dominated over the painted. Japanese Firebellied Newts and Fire bellied Toads, Jap. Newts bit Firebellied Toads, caused one to die.
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24571.html

:
: newts in with tropical fish
: Posted by jp on September 08, 2001 at 17:39:25:
: i have land and every thing any tips PS(i put him in with my fbts and one giped on to the head i had to put him out alive)
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/23634.html

: ADF with newts
: Posted by Jennewt on November 08, 2001 at 09:24:31:
: Twice, I tried to keep African dwarf frogs in with my tank with 4 eastern newts. Both times the frogs died after only a few weeks or months. The frogs were often swimming frantically and became skinny, so I think they were just stressed by being with the newts. Also, the frogs may not have gotten enough to eat because I was feeding the newts only twice per week.
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/frog/messages/34895.html

: Re: Please post mixed-species mistakes
: Posted by Leo on November 09, 2001 at 00:32:25:
: a friend of mine kept several specimens of triturus alpestris and cynops orientalis with three Bombina orientalis...well...the toads ate ALL THE NEWTS in a few days!
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24581.html
:
: Mandarin and tree frog
: Posted by orion on November 08, 2001 at 13:16:43:
: my very first salamander ever was a mandarin. i had no idea how to care for it, so i put it in my red-eyed tree frog tank. needless to say, the 80F degree temps alone took their tole on the mandarin. not only that, but one of the red-eyes died in the same week i put the salamander in, probably because of stress and/or foreign pathogens. so, i quarantined the mandarin and did my research on how to care for her and what went wrong. she stopped eating and began to develop white sores on her head and lower back, which i treated with kanacyn and neosporin. i think that the only reason she lived is because i got her out of there just in time. i learned a hard lesson about researching species before purchasing them
: http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24570.html

At our local petstore they keep the newts in with the fire bellied toad. I have seen newts missing tails and legs and arms. Floating dead ones and even one that was bitten in half. All the frogs seemed real healthy.
What really cracked me up is it says right on the tag the frogs are aggressive.

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: : : Hi, : : : Can frogs and sal's live in the same vivarium?????? : : : If so which species make good combo's : : : thanks, : : : B. : : Generally not. There are examples of it working, but often things go wrong, even after things seem OK for many months. For a more detailed answer, see: : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/treefrog/messages/4398.html : : I've been collecting sad tales of mixed species disasters from these forums. Here are the ones involving newts/sals and frogs. You be the judge of whether it is worth the risk or not. : : My firebellied toad attacked my firebellied newt and it died : : Posted by Mimi on May 28, 2001 at 20:11:48: : : After putting in crickets for the toad to eat, the toad tried to eat the newt. I had to pull the newt out of its mouth twice. This morning it was dead. Any ideas? : : Help! Fire-bellied newt lost its front right leg... : : Posted by Jeffrey on July 12, 2001 at 20:13:42: : : I came home today from work and my newt is missing a front right leg. It shares a 10 gallon with a fire-bellied toad. It looks like its suffering. Any suggestions??? : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/22308.html : : Is my newt dying? : : Posted by Jeff on July 30, 2001 at 12:41:53: : : Hi, : : I'm pretty new at the newt thing. I originally had 2 firebelly newts. One died of what appeared to be a white infection on his foot, which eventually fell off, then he died. While his foot was injured he didn't eat either. Now, a few months later, I've got one newt and added a little albino frog in my tank - and my newt has a foot injury/disease. He isn't eating. What is going on here? : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/22725.html : : Full grown african bullfrog with a salamander : : Posted by Joe on November 08, 2001 at 15:34:56: : : When i was 5 my father had a rather large african bullfrog, ine day wheile exploring my backyard i came across a salamander...10 minutes later the frog came across a meal : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/frog/messages/34901.html : : Golden Mantella and Painted Mantella : : Posted by Gecko/Frank on November 08, 2001 at 13:56:02: : : Golden Mantella dominated over the painted. Japanese Firebellied Newts and Fire bellied Toads, Jap. Newts bit Firebellied Toads, caused one to die. : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24571.html : : : : newts in with tropical fish : : Posted by jp on September 08, 2001 at 17:39:25: : : i have land and every thing any tips PS(i put him in with my fbts and one giped on to the head i had to put him out alive) : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/23634.html : : ADF with newts : : Posted by Jennewt on November 08, 2001 at 09:24:31: : : Twice, I tried to keep African dwarf frogs in with my tank with 4 eastern newts. Both times the frogs died after only a few weeks or months. The frogs were often swimming frantically and became skinny, so I think they were just stressed by being with the newts. Also, the frogs may not have gotten enough to eat because I was feeding the newts only twice per week. : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/frog/messages/34895.html : : Re: Please post mixed-species mistakes : : Posted by Leo on November 09, 2001 at 00:32:25: : : a friend of mine kept several specimens of triturus alpestris and cynops orientalis with three Bombina orientalis...well...the toads ate ALL THE NEWTS in a few days! : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24581.html : : : : Mandarin and tree frog : : Posted by orion on November 08, 2001 at 13:16:43: : : my very first salamander ever was a mandarin. i had no idea how to care for it, so i put it in my red-eyed tree frog tank. needless to say, the 80F degree temps alone took their tole on the mandarin. not only that, but one of the red-eyes died in the same week i put the salamander in, probably because of stress and/or foreign pathogens. so, i quarantined the mandarin and did my research on how to care for her and what went wrong. she stopped eating and began to develop white sores on her head and lower back, which i treated with kanacyn and neosporin. i think that the only reason she lived is because i got her out of there just in time. i learned a hard lesson about researching species before purchasing them : : http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/newt/messages/24570.html : : At our local petstore they keep the newts in with the fire bellied toad. I have seen newts missing tails and legs and arms. Floating dead ones and even one that was bitten in half. All the frogs seemed real healthy. : What really cracked me up is it says right on the tag the frogs are aggressive.

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